Substitute Motion fails 3-2 Monahan, Dixon, Foley vote no.

Bever: Mr. Mayor. I would like to pose an additional substitute motion.
Dixon: No. We take a vote. We have to take a vote on the motion that's on the floor”
Mayor: Asks the CA if that's correct.”
City Attorney: confirms yes
Monahan: My understanding is the Target proposal in your motion is included in this.
Foley: Yes.
Bever: Mr. Mayor. If I could comment before we vote. I support the concept. I think it's a noble goal. I think it's one that I would like to see achieved in five years with no question. I don't believe that adding a staff member for gang intervention specialist when we don't even have a job description is a good approach. I grew up in a neighborhood that was very gang infested and I can tell you that having a staffer on hand is not going to change things. This area has countless opportunities for kids. We're pitting in another skate park, kids can surf. There are plenty of distractions and diversions without having to have an official diverter. I will support the motion if the maker is willing to drop the gang intervention specialist. I can't see adding another staff position that's going to be a recurring cost forever.
Foley: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor: Yes
Foley: Member Monahan, I guess I wonder if you need me to address that. Because I'm not willing to drop the intervention specialist. I think that's a major component and it won't be a staff position. Actually, it's a contracted out position.
Monahan: Mr. Mayor. I will be supporting the motion. I think there's been a lot of work put into this by members of our police department to help council woman Foley come up with this idea. I think it's a phenomenal idea. We have some problems out there over the years. Anytime we've been able to add, give the police department some help in SED and others I've been very supportive. I'm very happy to be supportive again. We said we're going to eliminate it in five years. God, I hope you guys do, but I'm not going to hold my breath. I get it. You know, it can be bad. It goes up and down out there. Our biggest gang problems aren't even with the gangs we've talked about earlier that Mr. Blanc likes to talk about, but it's really been with skinhead gangs and white supremacists and I understand that. We used to have a really nasty house next to my kid's school that is now gone. So we do have some issues out there and I'm very thankful that councilwoman Foley brought this forward and I'm very happy to support this item.
Bever: Mr. Monahan. I'm not sure I'm clear on your comment. You say the biggest problem we have is white supremacist gangs?
Monahan: I believe in the gang area that that is the case.
Bever: Really?
Monahan: Yes.
Bever: Hmm.
Monahan: I've been down to the gang room. I've lived on the East side where they were living. I've seen-wow! I've seen some characters and that has been a real problem over the years. It's not the one that gets the publicity because they're a little smarter than some of the others and they don't do some of the same things, but-
Bever: My understanding is that the white supremacists gangs were generally prison gangs, parolees, probationers-No? These are kids?
Monahan: In the house I was talking to they came straight out of jail into that house.
Bever: Ok. These aren't the guys we're going to divert to playing basketball. I mean they're already gang members when they got here.
Monahan: (annoyed): That's not my point. That has nothing to do with it whatsoever.
Mayor: I would just like to say for the record, I like the idea of this proposal-the additional gang officers and the inclusion of target. I do tend to agree with Mayor Pro-tem on the other diversionary aspect. So, I will not be supporting it, but, please, do not mistake that for.
Monahan: Mr. Mayor and Mayor Pro-tem, I understand your hesitation with the intervention. I get it. I understand the reasoning, but I think it's a package deal and I think it was also recommended by our police department and I would like to support the motion. I would hate to come back and say five years from now or three years from now with an update-and this is the whole package that's been asked for and to hold somebody to something you need the whole package. If you hold part of that package out you can't exactly hold them to the fire. Not that I would, but I just want to say that this is part of the program that they've put forward. I think we need to support it.